Professor Frank Barrett, jazz pianist and author of Yes to the Mess, returns for an encore. In this episode he talks with Agility at Work co-hosts Mike Wheeler and Kim Leary about how old habits and assumptions stifle creativity in both negotiation and leadership. It’s one thing to recognize the trap, but quite another to wiggle out of it. In our conversation Frank draws on his experience teaching organizational behavior at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, California. He shares training examples from the military to break out of old patterns and spark fresh thinking.